And last but not least, third presentation of the day was about exploiting Anti-virus. It was very similar to the talk on CCCamp 'Antivirus (in)security' also by Sergio Alvarez . Besides the presentation, it was also only a demo and no actual workshop. There were some new elements in the presentation compared to the previous one. The worst thing that can happen to an AV product is not actually failing to detect malware. It's not crashing. It's being exploited. Think about it, which one is worse? Exploiting a client or exploiting a gateway? Defence in depth says to use different scanning engines. Something I have also been promoting.
Actually this defence in depth practice also increases your risk. The more different engines you use, the more chance you have to get exploited this way. I never looked at it this way. I saw a demo on a fully patched machine and it got owned
Scary stuff.

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